Solstice GXP to debut in Chi-town, 250 hp

[Tom Joad]

http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/vehicles/detail.asp?type_id=&make_id=43&vehicle_id=337

I'm too lazy to post pics right now. Looks bland compared to the Sky, but it looks like the turbo ecotec is confirmed. Fuck supercharged 4 bangers. :thumb:

[Alec Trevelyan]

I with you man.....I dont like s/c 4cyl cars!

[htoudiee]

Who said s/c...

It's a turbo 4 banger.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Who said s/c...

It's a turbo 4 banger.


I know its a t/c 4....im agreeing with his statement about s/c 4cyl's.

[lunchbox660]

i keep hearing people talk about the sky but ive never seen it....when i do a search for "sky" all i get is talk about it, but still no pics...anyone got any links?

and if i search for it on the forums, "sky" is too short of a word to complete a search it says.

[Tom Joad]

Who said s/c...

It's a turbo 4 banger.


There have been a number of people speculating for the last few months that GM wouldn't go through the trouble of developing a turbo motor when they have the 2.0 S/C from the Cobalt SS. Those people were wrong.

[drizze99]

I wonder how that engine is going to be configured in the engine bay. [where the turbo will be]

[Tom Joad]

i keep hearing people talk about the sky but ive never seen it....when i do a search for "sky" all i get is talk about it, but still no pics...anyone got any links?

and if i search for it on the forums, "sky" is too short of a word to complete a search it says.


http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/vehicles/detail.asp?type_id=&make_id=45&vehicle_id=306&image_number=2

[SilverSRT4bang]

Id rather get the regular version and do this.......
http://www.performanceautowerks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=927

[lunchbox660]

if its anythign like the turbo miatas, the turbo will prolly jus tbe mounted on the side, the engine mounted inline...just a guess tho

[drizze99]

i keep hearing people talk about the sky but ive never seen it....when i do a search for "sky" all i get is talk about it, but still no pics...anyone got any links?

and if i search for it on the forums, "sky" is too short of a word to complete a search it says.

http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/Saturn%20Sky.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/travelbuff/saturn2.jpg

http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/i/uk/aut/d/th33.jpg

[lunchbox660]

thanks tom joad! i appreciate the link! that sky is fakkin badass!!!!!

[Tom Joad]

Id rather get the regular version and do this.......
http://www.performanceautowerks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=927

Dave's been busy! :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

[lunchbox660]

and thank you also drizze!

[lunchbox660]

damn, i think my next car might be a sky....i was interested in the caliber, but the sky is too sexy....

[SilverSRT4bang]

Dave's been busy! :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
Must be, I haven't been over there in a while.

[Alec Trevelyan]

I love the body of the Sky....and 250HP in a rwd 4cyl car sounds pretty nice.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Imagine someone putting the LS7 Z06 engine in there.....WOW!!!

[Tom Joad]

I love the body of the Sky....and 250HP in a rwd 4cyl car sounds pretty nice.

:werd: + turbo modability. I wonder how that car will take to turning up the boost?

It's the first time I've been tempted to sell my car since I bought it. Might have to sell the dog or the wife too; no way will they both fit in one of those. :lol:

[Alec Trevelyan]

:werd: + turbo modability. I wonder how that car will take to turning up the boost?

It's the first time I've been tempted to sell my car since I bought it. Might have to sell the dog or the wife too; no way will they both fit in one of those. :lol:


I hear ya. Plus the Sky Redline is supposed to have dual exh to go with the sleek body style....I really like that car!

[0311srt]

I really like it too.
Rear wheel drive....thats gonan be badass. The cost is going to be high though. Some of the reg ones are going for 26k msrp here in AZ.

So the GXP will have dealer markup and be more than that.

I had a good read on it posted on a diff forum let me see if I can find it.

It also boosts 20 psi from the factory so it should handle boost well...but for the price I would rather buy an evo

[0311srt]

http://solsticegxpowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16

[slow4dr]

After reading some of the specs in that engine I think Chevy dropped the ball with the Cobalt.

I think I am generally interested in the "Sky" even though I absolutely HATE roadsters.

[punkrokdood]

After reading some of the specs in that engine I think Chevy dropped the ball with the Cobalt.

I think I am generally interested in the "Sky" even though I absolutely HATE roadsters.
well DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


GM sucks ass at ideas.... remember????? :ftard:

although this is great news :thumb:

[Tom Joad]

I wonder how that engine is going to be configured in the engine bay. [where the turbo will be]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7483/ecoturbo39rh0ou.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In the diagram I saw, the FMIC was mounted on here. ---------------------^

[punkrokdood]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7483/ecoturbo39rh0ou.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In the diagram I saw, the FMIC was mounted on here. ---------------------^
LOOK at that thing... the turbine housing looks ENORMOUS compared to the compressor... looks like there will be a LOT of room to upgrade the stock turbo :sneaky:

also looking at where everything sits... should be VERY easy to upgrade certain parts and still remain stock looking.

i'm wondering if maybe the ECU doesnt control the boost, and that's why it has such a big turbine... no PTB on that one :ftard:

[gudeman00]

well DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


GM sucks ass at ideas.... remember????? :ftard:

although this is great news :thumb:

GM to develop more RWD cars:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/01/23/gm-pledges-to-develop-more-rwd-cars/

[slow4dr]

As long as it's a divorced manifold/turbine housing I am all for it. From the looks of that downpipe there will be some performance to gain from upgrading. I wonder if the manifold/turbine has a T3 flange already.

[Alec Trevelyan]

After reading some of the specs in that engine I think Chevy dropped the ball with the Cobalt.

I think I am generally interested in the "Sky" even though I absolutely HATE roadsters.


I really like this car man! Im with you if your point was that THIS is the engine that SHOULD have been in the Coblat SS! But oh well! The Sky has a nice body, solid engine with forged internal parts, convertible, and a 2 seater.....this sounds like a nice package!!! By looking at the engine turbo setup upgrading the turbo itself to like a GT3071R shouldnt be too hard.

[el_jefe]

How the fuck are you gonna add fuel for a bigger turbo?

A high-pressure, returnless fuel system is employed. It features a high-strength stainless steel fuel line that feeds a variable-pressure fuel rail. Direct injection requires higher fuel pressure than conventional fuel injected engines and an engine-driven high-pressure fuel pump is used to supply up to 1,276 psi (150 bar):yikes: of pressure. The system regulates lower fuel pressure at idle — approximately 752 psi (50 bar) and higher pressure at wide-open throttle. The cam-driven high-pressure pumps works in conjunction with a conventional fuel tank-mounted supply pump.


Only way to do it will be through the ECU, no one has injectors for this sort of thing. . .

[Broken5hift]

sky > *

[slow4dr]

I really like this car man! Im with you if your point was that THIS is the engine that SHOULD have been in the Coblat SS! But oh well! The Sky has a nice body, solid engine with forged internal parts, convertible, and a 2 seater.....this sounds like a nice package!!! By looking at the engine turbo setup upgrading the turbo itself to like a GT3071R shouldnt be too hard.


:thumb: Well, I really wish the Cobalt would have been RWD with this drivetrain. :hit: If it has a T3 mounting flange it would be very easy to upgrade. Even a T25 flange would work pretty nicely.

How the fuck are you gonna add fuel for a bigger turbo?
Only way to do it will be through the ECU, no one has injectors for this sort of thing. . .

Most diesels run 15-20K lbs of fuel pressure and most aftermarket companies bump that another 5-10K with the ECU alone so the technology is there.

[Alec Trevelyan]

sky > *


So will the LT1 be going bye bye next year?

[Alec Trevelyan]

:thumb: Well, I really wish the Cobalt would have been RWD with this drivetrain. :hit: If it has a T3 mounting flange it would be very easy to upgrade. Even a T25 flange would work pretty nicely.



Most diesels run 15-20K lbs of fuel pressure and most aftermarket companies bump that another 5-10K with the ECU alone so the technology is there.



:stupid: ......Now this guy knows his shit!

[Alec Trevelyan]

Can someone photochop this car in black for me?


http://www.vseries.net/gallery/data/500/850111200513184718.jpg

[punkrokdood]

better yet....
right click, save as, its effin HUGE
http://branon.us/skyturkfull.jpg

[punkrokdood]

^^^sorry, that's the superdark blue :ftard:

[punkrokdood]

if you want pics, go here :thumb:

http://www.skyroadster.com/photopost/

[Alec Trevelyan]

Thx man thats close enough for me.

[el_jefe]

Most diesels run 15-20K lbs of fuel pressure and most aftermarket companies bump that another 5-10K with the ECU alone so the technology is there.


Yeah, but not available to the general public. It's not like you can call up RC engineering and say gimme a set of direct injection injectors, rated at 750 @ 150bar. Shit, the technology is there to build a flying car, but I don't have one of those either.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Ya know if the car takes off like its expected to im sure GM Perf. will offer Stage packages like they will for the Cobalt SS And what Mopar did for the SRT4.

Id deffiently trade my car in for this if it performs nice.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Another funny thing is I still havent seen this car with the top up....oh well im sure it still looks nice.

EDIT: I dont think its a power top....I believe its a manual top.

[Tom Joad]

Ya know if the car takes off like its expected to im sure GM Perf. will offer Stage packages like they will for the Cobalt SS And what Mopar did for the SRT4.

Id deffiently trade my car in for this if it performs nice.

I'd wild-ass guess rate this thing somewhere in the mid 13's bonestock.

GM is claiming 5.5 0-60 times, which isn't stunning, but not bad at all for a roadster that'll likely sell for a 25kish msrp.

[slow4dr]

Yeah, but not available to the general public. It's not like you can call up RC engineering and say gimme a set of direct injection injectors, rated at 750 @ 150bar. Shit, the technology is there to build a flying car, but I don't have one of those either.


:rofl:

You can call up most diesel performance places and get bigger injectors. They aren't that expensive either.

http://www.bd-power.com/ram/product.php?pn=High%20Flow%20Injectors&tt=ram

[punkrokdood]

I'd wild-ass guess rate this thing somewhere in the mid 13's bonestock.

GM is claiming 5.5 0-60 times, which isn't stunning, but not bad at all for a roadster that'll likely sell for a 25kish msrp.
very easily mid 13's. more hp, less wieght, better traction than the srt-4, i'd say low to mid 13's, probably advertised at mids, and some will squeak out lows.

i'm pretty sure it can get to 60 in less than 5.5. the srt was rated at 5.3-5.5 by magazines. i think they'll be rated very similarly performance wise, but real world, i'm guessing these will be a little better :sneaky:


btw... I've been following the kappa for a while now :lol:

[Alec Trevelyan]

very easily mid 13's. more hp, less wieght, better traction than the srt-4, i'd say low to mid 13's, probably advertised at mids, and some will squeak out lows.

i'm pretty sure it can get to 60 in less than 5.5. the srt was rated at 5.3-5.5 by magazines. i think they'll be rated very similarly performance wise, but real world, i'm guessing these will be a little better :sneaky:


btw... I've been following the kappa for a while now :lol:


I concur with everything here. This engine setup looks nice and appears to be able to EASILY support more power. This car should be able to lay down mid/low 13's with a decent trap speed and a solid driver...RWD rules!

If GM is smart they will not make this a limited production car.....I see a nice market for this car from all age groups.

[slow4dr]

99.99% of the owners of these cars will never drag race them. They will rationalize that it isn't a drag car. :supergay:

[Alec Trevelyan]

99.99% of the owners of these cars will never drag race them. They will rationalize that it isn't a drag car. :supergay:


...And those same people would be the ones complaining that GM Perf. isnt making any parts for there cars...:ftard:


This car has ALOT of potential....it would be a crime if a bunch of yuppie assholes ruined the reputation of a car like this!

[punkrokdood]

...And those same people would be the ones complaining that GM Perf. isnt making any parts for there cars...:ftard:


This car has ALOT of potential....it would be a crime if a bunch of yuppie assholes ruined the reputation of a car like this!
don't need yuppie assholes for that... historically speaking, GM does a good enough job of ruining their reputation on their own :thumb:

[Alec Trevelyan]

don't need yuppie assholes for that... historically speaking, GM does a good enough job of ruining their reputation on their own :thumb:


....sad but true!

[blackbird]

There have been a number of people speculating for the last few months that GM wouldn't go through the trouble of developing a turbo motor when they have the 2.0 S/C from the Cobalt SS. Those people were wrong.It's not like GM hasn't been selling a turbo Ecotec in the U.S. for almost 4 years now. The turbo GXP had been rumored and the development mule spotted a long time ago, but until confirmed by GM they could have gone with either engine.


The direct injection is going to make it more of a challenge for the aftermarket to significantly up the boost. Luckily the GM computers are hacked with relative ease, at least compared to some manufacturers **cough-Chrysler/NGC-cough***. If not and the stock system doesn't want to play I could see people trying alternate methods like additional regular injectors (depending on things such as if there's also a conventional electric pump, fuel line routing, etc.).

Other things I noticed was that they stated it would run 20 pounds of boost and then in parenthesis said 1.25 bar, which would be a little over 18 psi. If Saab was involved in the development, which I’d almost guarantee, they have a habit of providing a short-duration overboost. The older 2.3L Ecopower (NOT the same as the Ecotec) in 9-3 Viggen's and the 9-5 Aero's would boost to 20 psi but normally ran a few pounds lower. BTW, the Saab developed Ecopower 2.3L in the 9-5's this year is already putting out 260hp.

The exhaust housing looks big, but from the picture it's just because they went with an odd shaped housing dual-scroll setup. The wheels in the cross-sectional diagram look to be of similar size. I'll have to see if I can dig up who might make to turbo. GM is currently using both Mitsu and Garrett's on the Ecotec.

Nice car, and it gets my :thumb:. If I end up getting another new car in about a year it probably will be a turbo GM, but it's going to be Scandinavian and probably a turbo V6. :sneaky:

[Alec Trevelyan]

The direct injection is going to make it more of a challenge for the aftermarket to significantly up the boost. Luckily the GM computers are hacked with relative ease, at least compared to some manufacturers **cough-Chrysler/NGC-cough***. If not and the stock system doesn't want to play I could see people trying alternate methods like additional regular injectors (depending on things such as if there's also a conventional electric pump, fuel line routing, etc.).



Thank god!

:thumb:


So does this pretty much me if you went aftermarket someone with the software could reflash the stock ECU?

[punkrokdood]

Thank god!

:thumb:


So does this pretty much me if you went aftermarket someone with the software could reflash the stock ECU?
most likely... :thumb:

+1 for no more piggy backs :lol:

[blackbird]

Not guaranteed, but highly likely. It will also depend on the engine management system they use with the new variant of the Ecotec. A lot of the older GM engine controllers and even Saab's advanced Trionic 8* can be re-programmed. But if it uses the newer Bosch ME 9.6 or more likely GM's own new E38/E40/E67 family it might be a while before the systems are cracked.



*If you've never read anything on it, do a quick search. Saab doesn't use a knock sensor but instead utilizes ionization technology to use the spark plugs to measure knock, and it's much more accurate in doing so. They've supposedly also integrated some of these features into the new Bosch controller used on the turbocharged 2.8L V6.

[Tom Joad]

So, what are people selling 04 SRT-4s for nowadays? :lol:

[gudeman00]

I took a couple pictures. The silver is the non GXP, whatever it's called.

I might have access to one of these this summer, I'll get more pics.

[Tom Joad]

Looks like the Sky will cost 3 grand more then the Solstice for no additional performance related goodies. :supergay: I may need to buy myself a Solstice GXP.

[gudeman00]

Looks like the Sky will cost 3 grand more then the Solstice for no additional performance related goodies. :supergay: I may need to buy myself a Solstice GXP.

I think I took 2 pictures of the sky. When I get back home I'll put them up.
They seem like the exact same car to me, which means i'd take the solstice.
i already want to start saving up for the challenger.

[punkrokdood]

Looks like the Sky will cost 3 grand more then the Solstice for no additional performance related goodies. :supergay: I may need to buy myself a Solstice GXP.
the sky is gonna cost more basically because it is going to be the "luxury" model. its going to have a lot more options as standard equipment. the solstice will be available without power windows, a/c etc, where-as that will be standard on the sky

[Tom Joad]

So basically the Sky is for the RSX crowd?

[punkrokdood]

So basically the Sky is for the RSX crowd?
the interiors are almost identical i believe. its mainly the body that is different, then the sky will have more standard features... comparably equipped they'll cost about the same.

gm is trying to reorganize, and they THINK this is what is going to happen
chevy= ford, dodge, honda, etc
saturn= acura
buick= bmw
cadillac= mercedes

but, since GM sucks ass with ideas, we'll see how it all plays out. personally, i prefer the styling of the sky MUCH more than the solstice, and i won't have a daily driver type car without a/c (mainly because i make a lot of trips to AZ,) so the price difference is very minimal in my case

[Alec Trevelyan]

I still like the body style of the Sky WAYYYYYYYYY more then the solistice.....it rather pay the 3g's more for that car. Was the Sky RL there at the show?

[Tom Joad]

the interiors are almost identical i believe. its mainly the body that is different, then the sky will have more standard features... comparably equipped they'll cost about the same.

gm is trying to reorganize, and they THINK this is what is going to happen
chevy= ford, dodge, honda, etc
saturn= acura
buick= bmw
cadillac= mercedes

but, since GM sucks ass with ideas, we'll see how it all plays out. personally, i prefer the styling of the sky MUCH more than the solstice, and i won't have a daily driver type car without a/c (mainly because i make a lot of trips to AZ,) so the price difference is very minimal in my case


So far so good though. I'm beyond impressed with what they've down with Cadillac, Pontiac, and Chevrolet. If they keep it up then who knows.

The price difference comes when you compare base models. I don't know what options the GXP has, but if it's loaded maybe the price will be similar to the Sky Redline? :dunno:

[gudeman00]

I still like the body style of the Sky WAYYYYYYYYY more then the solistice.....it rather pay the 3g's more for that car. Was the Sky RL there at the show?


I didnt pay attention to the sky too much. I just snapped a couple of pictures and walked on. This evening i'll put them up here.

[punkrokdood]

So far so good though. I'm beyond impressed with what they've down with Cadillac, Pontiac, and Chevrolet. If they keep it up then who knows.

The price difference comes when you compare base models. I don't know what options the GXP has, but if it's loaded maybe the price will be similar to the Sky Redline? :dunno:
right... base model solstice= no a/c, no power options, and a couple other things... base model sky has all that as standard, so if you want those options anyway, then they'll be very similar in price.

as far as being impressed with them, i love cadillacs and corvettes, however, they have too many bad ideas that can't be ignored IMO

cobalt/ion redline- s/c ecotec= poo, turbo ecotec= hotness, so they go with the s/c
GTO- not a bad car, but it seems like it was kinda jsut slapped together, and the 2004 model was entirely far to unimpressive to me that i kinda lost interest
dumping the f-body????? 'nuff said
ever notice how the corvette doesn't say chevrolet ANYWHERE on the body??? i think GM knows they suck ass, and won't pollute a great car with a shit name.
actually stating that their model lines will compete with other manufacturers is jsut plain stupid
trying to make saturn into a new luxury line while keeping that name is just retarded. i love the sky, but i'd love it more if it was not saturn. they should have dropped saturn and made a new name maybe... your anus would describe a GM POS better?

i think they've done great things with cadillas and corvettes, but come on, the cheapest car out of those is STILL over 30k, and its nothing special (V6 CTS) maybe with the kappa platform they'll start offering more affordable cars that are still kinda "cool" and that will be a new trend. I really hope so because i've always loved the f-bodies, but once they got rid of them, they really have nothing left at all.

[blackbird]

The Sky actually has a much nicer (in my opinion) interior derived from the Opel version of the Kappa (clicky here (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/02/opel-gt-more-info/)). The Solstice isn't bad but if you look close there are a lot more 'parts bin' pieces in its interior (all Kappa's do share some interior parts). My educated guess on GM's normal pricing structure will be that two equally equipped Solstice and Sky's will have the Saturn coming in slightly more expensive, but not a ton. Probably around $1k but I doubt more than a $2k premium at most.

Speaking of compact performance cars, I ran across a couple links to what will be our Mazdaspeed3 here in the US. It's a great time for performance options. Here (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/13/mazda3-mps-to-debut-in-geneva/) and here (http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=39791.0).

[StreetRaceGN]

I think Buick is overdue to bring out another performance model...They usually build something worthwhile every 20 years or so.

[punkrokdood]

I think Buick is overdue to bring out another performance model...They usually build something worthwhile every 20 years or so.
:werd:
GM put buick in the running to compete with BMW, so they'd have to have some nice performance model to stay competitive :thumb:

[gudeman00]

Guess I only took one picture of it, my bad.

[punkrokdood]

Guess I only took one picture of it, my bad.
its all good marcus.... man, i love that fuckin car :lol:

hmmmm..... the srt will be payed off when the redline version comes out :sneaky:

[gudeman00]

its all good marcus.... man, i love that fuckin car :lol:

hmmmm..... the srt will be payed off when the redline version comes out :sneaky:


my thinking as well, but with the challenger instead of redline :thumb:
I fucking love the challenger :lol:

[punkrokdood]

my thinking as well, but with the challenger instead of redline :thumb:
I fucking love the challenger :lol:
i love them both :gcry:

i'd like a handling type car this time though... :lol:

and i'm a cheap bastard that doesn't want to pay more than 28k out the door for a car :ftard:

[Tom Joad]

I think Buick is overdue to bring out another performance model...They usually build something worthwhile every 20 years or so.

:werd:

I nearly cried when I heard the new GNX concept was :bs:

[Alec Trevelyan]

:werd:

I nearly cried when I heard the new GNX concept was :bs:


Yeah man a next Generation GNX would OWN! They would probably get a nice interest in it.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Guess I only took one picture of it, my bad.


Damm you! I need more pictures of this car!

[punkrokdood]

Damm you! I need more pictures of this car!
www.skyroadster.com

go to the gallery... there's a TON of pics :thumb:

[Alec Trevelyan]

The Sky Saturn looks so hot in black....I knew it would!

[punkrokdood]

The Sky Saturn looks so hot in black....I knew it would!
:werd:

that's what i'm shooting for... black sky redline, still not sure if i'm gonna get all black or black/red interior yet hmmmm

then again by then i may want the black/tan interior for the more upscale look :lol:

[slow4dr]

"upscale" & "Saturn"



Who'd a thunk it? :rofl:

[Tom Joad]

Make mine a GXP in the cheapest, fastest color I can find. :rofl:

[punkrokdood]

"upscale" & "Saturn"



Who'd a thunk it? :rofl:
:werd:
that's the only thing i don't like about the car....

oh yea, no more "dent resistant" (shitty plastic) body panels :lol:

[Alec Trevelyan]

then again by then i may want the black/tan interior for the more upscale look :lol:


Thats the Yuppie look! Go either blk/red or triple black(top,int,ext)! Now I just want to see so more closer pics of the Sky RL and perf specs.

[punkrokdood]

Thats the Yuppie look! Go either blk/red or triple black(top,int,ext)! Now I just want to see so more closer pics of the Sky RL and perf specs.
sky RL isn't out, neither is the solstice gxp, but they should be the same. turbo 2.0 or 2.2 ecotec 250+hp

and yes, i really like the black on red theme, but that might be a little too much for me... i may go all blacked out... hopefully someone will make an aftermarket hard top convertible :sneaky:

[Alec Trevelyan]

hopefully someone will make an aftermarket hard top convertible :sneaky:


You better hope it fits in the trunk if its the kind of top im thinking about. After looking at the car body itself the trunk cant be very big.


....id say its a 1 body trunk....:lol:

[punkrokdood]

direct from pontiac

2.0 turbo
260 hp/ 260 tq
5 speed manual/ optional 5 speed auto
direct injection
0-60 in under 5.5 sec

[punkrokdood]

You better hope it fits in the trunk if its the kind of top im thinking about. After looking at the car body itself the trunk cant be very big.


....id say its a 1 body trunk....:lol:
one golf bag with the top down :yikes:

[punkrokdood]

gxp standard features
unique front/ rear fascias
fake dual exhaust
StabiliTrak
3.73 rear axle ratio
sport suspension (sooooo gone once i get it :lol:)
4 wheel disc brakes w/ abs
rear LSD
"interior refinements" (gauge cluster logo seats with red stitching)
performance tires, 18" aluminum wheels

[Tom Joad]

You better hope it fits in the trunk if its the kind of top im thinking about. After looking at the car body itself the trunk cant be very big.


....id say its a 1 body trunk....:lol:

Only if you've got a wood chipper.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Come on and vote guys!

http://www.srtsyndicate.com/showthread.php?t=2506

[Alec Trevelyan]

I just spotted this link over at the sky forum pretty nice. When you check the page click the top link...the Sky RL might have a 6 speed....that would be sick!


http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2261

[punkrokdood]

I just spotted this link over at the sky forum pretty nice. When you check the page click the top link...the Sky RL might have a 6 speed....that would be sick!


http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2261
yes it would


and it better be

$32000 for the opel

[Alec Trevelyan]

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/opelgt07_01.jpg


http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/opelgt07_02.jpg


GAAAANNNNGGGSSSTTTTAAA!!!!111!!!1!!1

[punkrokdood]

awww shiiiiit

something excites me about these pics.... guess what it is.... :sneaky:

[Broken5hift]

http://www.srtsyndicate.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=406&d=1139952304

that is volkswagons exact setup

[punkrokdood]

http://www.srtsyndicate.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=406&d=1139952304

that is volkswagons exact setup
except its not a VW :lol:

i like this one in partiular

http://www.srtsyndicate.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=409&d=1139952304

[Alec Trevelyan]

awww shiiiiit

something excites me about these pics.... guess what it is.... :sneaky:


....why dont you tell us.

[punkrokdood]

....why dont you tell us.
look at the flange for the exhaust manifold :sneaky:

[slow4dr]

blah, divided housings = ghey

:rofl:

At least their turbo spins the right way.

[punkrokdood]

blah, divided housings = ghey

:rofl:

At least their turbo spins the right way.
i'm more referring to the fact that there IS a flange :deal:

[Alec Trevelyan]

I can almost see one of us now who gets this car ripping the engine out and trying to mod it to death.

[punkrokdood]

I can almost see one of us now who gets this car ripping the engine out and trying to mod it to death.
that's my plan.... big turbo asap :lol:

[Alec Trevelyan]

that's my plan.... big turbo asap :lol:


Then we better hope the ECU is easily hackable or its not going to be good.....cuz I HIGHLY doubt thats the ECU is going to be a "learning" computer that will automatically tune it for you once it senses the changes on your car.....


......please god let the Autronic EMS work for this car in some way shape or form!

[slow4dr]

i'm more referring to the fact that there IS a flange :deal:


I don't think there is anything out there with that same style presently to upgrade to.

I see the Cobalt/Redline people using that exhaust side on their cars to "TWIN charge".

:supergay:

[punkrokdood]

Then we better hope the ECU is easily hackable or its not going to be good.....cuz I HIGHLY doubt thats the ECU is going to be a "learning" computer that will automatically tune it for you once it senses the changes on your car.....


......please god let the Autronic EMS work for this car in some way shape or form!
well, obviously :lol:
as eric stated, depending on what computer set up they go with, the gm computers have historically been pretty easy to hack

[punkrokdood]

I don't think there is anything out there with that same style presently to upgrade to.

I see the Cobalt/Redline people using that exhaust side on their cars to "TWIN charge".

:supergay:
nothing a custom adapter cant fix :thumb:

and someone will cast a couple different housings with that flange at some point i'm sure

and yes, the cobalt guys are :supergay:

[Alec Trevelyan]

well, obviously :lol:
as eric stated, depending on what computer set up they go with, the gm computers have historically been pretty easy to hack


I can see it now....."Today on ihacked.com learn how to crack you Saturn Sky Redline ECU for 5tubid h0r53p0w3r boi!!!111!!"

[Alec Trevelyan]

I will say this....id much rather work on trying to fab up a replacement turbo for that car then if it was s/c and trying to fab a replacement.

[slow4dr]

I will say this....id much rather work on trying to fab up a replacement turbo for that car then if it was s/c and trying to fab a replacement.


:thumb:

Brandon, if you do get one I want to spend a weekend with it looking at what I can improve. :jester:

[punkrokdood]

:thumb:

Brandon, if you do get one I want to spend a weekend with it looking at what I can improve. :jester:
deal

i jsut need to scrape together 32k :lol:

i may be college bound after all :gcry:

we can do a chassis brace :rofl:

[slow4dr]

deal

i jsut need to scrape together 32k :lol:

i may be college bound after all :gcry:

we can do a chassis brace :rofl:


That could be the first thing we do. "The jack stand test" :rofl:

[punkrokdood]

That could be the first thing we do. "The jack stand test" :rofl:
:rofl:

i can see it now... "Fuck that i'm taking it back... my neon is stiffer than that!!!"


:rofl: :ftard:

[gudeman00]

i jsut need to scrape together 32k :lol:




sounds like what I need to do for the challenger except probably a little more.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Looking at the engine layout it doesnt seem "too hard" to fab up a replacement turbo to it....

Will it be easy....FUCK NO!!! Can it be done....Yes!

[punkrokdood]

Looking at the engine layout it doesnt seem "too hard" to fab up a replacement turbo to it....

Will it be easy....FUCK NO!!! Can it be done....Yes!
it looks a hell of a lot easier than the srt-4... i'd like to see pics of the engine bay though, jsut to be sure

[blackbird]

There are other factory cast manifolds for that head since GM already uses Garrett and Mitsu turbochargers on the Ecotec...



Thats the Yuppie look! Go either blk/red or triple black(top,int,ext)!
Triple black is nice looking, but isn't very nice to live with in the desert. My Olds convertible is a pain trying to keep looking nice and it isn't fun to leave the top down in the summer.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Wow you live in the desert.....go silver ext/blk or silver int.

[Tom Joad]

:rofl:

i can see it now... "Fuck that i'm taking it back... my neon is stiffer than that!!!"


:rofl: :ftard:

Did you get the pwerks brace? How do you like it?

[punkrokdood]

Did you get the pwerks brace? How do you like it?
yea, i got it, and it is AWESOME

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216968

http://www.srtsyndicate.com/showthread.php?t=1718&page=4

my original posts in both places are the same, but different questions were asked and answered :thumb:

[gudeman00]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-images/media/mar1gm_8.jpg

Okay, the car looks a lot better than i thought it did.

[Alec Trevelyan]

This car is teh s3xY!!!


I read there starting to finalize pricing......30K fully loaded! Not bad.

[Alec Trevelyan]

With the engine size the way its is I think a GT3071R, GT3037R or a DBB 50trim would work real nice with this if the aftermarket does it right.

[Jessica Alba]

GT302346-SVT-RX7

[Alec Trevelyan]

Im now finally starting to see commercials for these cars now which is pretty cool.

[blackbird]

With the engine size the way its is I think a GT3071R, GT3037R or a DBB 50trim would work real nice with this if the aftermarket does it right.
Those are nice sized turbochargers for a 2.4L, but the turbo Ecotec is a 2.0L. They might work well if you can rev the Ecotec out more, but may not be optimal for a street car. A new exhaust manifold would also be required to use any of the major aftermarket turbochargers.

[gudeman00]

I am really starting to like this car :thumb:

[Broken5hift]

I am really starting to like this car :thumb:

ive seen two so far, red and black. both looked fucking sweet.

[punkrokdood]

i'm about 90% sure that a sky R/L will be my next car... I'd really love to have a hard top, but even without, its a hot ass car, with what appears to be a VERY nice drivetrain :thumb:

[gudeman00]

Some Saturn dealers are beginning to inform customers that they will be selling the Saturn Sky roadster for more than the suggested retail price of $23,690. According to the Orange County Register, some dealers will sell the vehicles for as much as $3,000 over MSRP. In January, we reported that some dealers were selling the Pontiac Solstice — a sister vehicle to the Sky — for as much as $5,000 over MSRP, much to the outrage of many Pontiac fans.

leftlanenews

[punkrokdood]

Some Saturn dealers are beginning to inform customers that they will be selling the Saturn Sky roadster for more than the suggested retail price of $23,690. According to the Orange County Register, some dealers will sell the vehicles for as much as $3,000 over MSRP. In January, we reported that some dealers were selling the Pontiac Solstice — a sister vehicle to the Sky — for as much as $5,000 over MSRP, much to the outrage of many Pontiac fans.

leftlanenews
that's the consumer's dumbass fault. people need to quit paying over msrp, then this shit won't happen. can't blame the dealerships for trying... i mean seriously, i would try to get as much profit as possible too. its good buisness, and if people are paying it, why not charge it?

the local dodge dealers have a blanket 10k markup on ALL new cars... why???? because dipshits will pay it, or they talk off 5000 from the sticker price, and feel like they got a good buy :ftard:

[Alec Trevelyan]

Those are nice sized turbochargers for a 2.4L, but the turbo Ecotec is a 2.0L. They might work well if you can rev the Ecotec out more, but may not be optimal for a street car. A new exhaust manifold would also be required to use any of the major aftermarket turbochargers.


Yeah being that the engine is a 2.0L id say the GT3071R would be the best choice for aftermarket.

I really want to see this car in Trip. Blk. in person!

[punkrokdood]

Yeah being that the engine is a 2.0L id say the GT3071R would be the best choice for aftermarket.

I really want to see this car in Trip. Blk. in person!
:werd:

the pic of the black opel GT is my desktop here at work :lol:

[Alec Trevelyan]

If GM Perf. announces that there going to produce upgrade parts for the Sky RL & solstice im sure they will do well in sales. Even still the Sky RL looks fuckin HAWT!!